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Say Brother; New Music; Cecil Taylor interview

Part of Say Brother.


In this clip Jazz musician Cecil Taylor talks about the meaning of Art in a community. Overall the program introduces the topic of African American music in the United States, in particular, jazz, with its ability to convey the great range of emotions of the human spirit via its improvisational nature. Host David Crippens introduces performance segments by the Ali Yusef Trio and the Webster Lewis Septet, interviews with Cecil Taylor and the owner of Crawford's Grill (a famous jazz nightclub in Pittsburgh, PA), "Information" on "new music" and what it means, "Dealin'" with Cecil Taylor (who defines jazz), "Commentary" by professor and historian A.B. Spellman on the lack of new African American music on Boston radio stations, and segment interludes with Cheryl Bibbs, Gerald Durley, and Wolf Mandrill (of the musical group Mandrill). Produced by Marita Rivero. Directed by Conrad White.

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Say Brother
New Music
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Cecil Taylor interview

Series Description

Say Brother is WGBH's longest running public affairs television program by, for and about African Americans, and is now known as Basic Black. Since its inception in 1968, Say Brother has featured the voices of both locally and nationally known African American artists, athletes, performers, politicians, professionals, and writers including: Muhammad Ali, Maya Angelou, Thomas Atkins, Amiri Baraka, Doris Bunte, Julian Bond, Stokely Carmichael, Louis Farrakhan, Nikki Giovanni, Odetta Gordon, Henry Hampton, Benjamin Hooks, Jesse Jackson, Hubie Jones, Mel King, Eartha Kitt, Elma Lewis, Haki Madhubuti, Wallace D. Muhammad, Charles Ogletree, Babatunde Olatunji, Byron Rushing, Owusu Sadaukai, and Sonia Sanchez. Series release date: 7/15/1968

Program Description

Program consists of performance footage of a local Boston-based septet, and community awareness segments. Program includes a mime performance by Halim Adbur Rashid (Fred Johnson), a 30-minute performance by the The Webster Lewis Septet in the Say Brother studio, "Information" (on how and where to file income taxes), "Access" (in which United Community of Construction Workers'Jim McLean offers recommendations on what to look for when you buy a house), "Blast from the Past" (with an excerpt from a Say Brother interview with Chico Neblett, a Boston Field Marshall for the Black Panther Party), the "Community Calendar," and "Commentary" by Producer Marita Rivero.

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Mandrill, Wolf
Durley, Dr. Gerald
Taylor, Cecil, 1929-
Robinson, William, Sr.
Webster Lewis Septet (Musical group)
Ali Yusef Trio (Musical group)
African Americans--Attitudes
African American musicians
Bibbs, Cheryl
Race and Ethnicity
White, Conrad (Director)
Barrow-Murray, Barbara (Associate Producer)
Rivero, Marita (Producer)
Jones, Vickie (Associate Producer)
Smith, Lee (Studio Technician)
Bravo Wing, Carla (Community Coordinator)
Chigas, Basil (Studio Technician)
Hutton, David (Videotape Engineer)
Simons, Fred (Videotape Engineer)
Rivero, Marita (Concept)
Spangler, Jennifer (Engineer)
Wareham, Skip (Studio Technician)
Bagwell, Orlando (Assistant Editor)
Wright, Rodner (Graphics)
Izzi, Steve (Sound)
Balhatchet, Tom (Engineer)
Webster Lewis Septet, The (Theme Music)
Silva, Candelaria (Community Coordinator)
McGuire Nicholas, Sallie (Production Assistant)
Henry, Arthur (Videotape Engineer)
MacKnight, John (Videotape Engineer)
Bordett, Bruce (Studio Technician)
Haydock, Roger (Assistant Cameraman)
Loerzel, David (Assistant Cameraman)
Benson, Bill (Unit Manager)
Cogell, Lloyd (Still Photography)
Hadfield, Peter (Graphics)
Crippens, David (Host)
Handyside, Keith (Engineer)
Lane, Frank (Studio Technician)
DeVitt, Douglas (Videotape Engineer)
Koppel, Tiit (Studio Technician)
Sullivan, John L. (Studio Technician)
Kenner, Sharon (Graphics)
Tarter, Margaret (Community Coordinator)
Wright, Sylvia (Community Coordinator)
Wilson, Bob (Studio Technician)
Buccheri, Ron (Studio Technician)
Spooner, Dighton (Researcher)
Kane, Pat (Videotape Engineer)
Fairweather, Bill (Engineer)
Plausse, John (Studio Technician)
Dick, Michael (Graphics)
Smith, Kathy (Studio Technician)
Nicholas , Huntley, Jr. (Sound)
LeCain, Larry (Studio Technician)
Floyd, Michael (Studio Technician)
St. Onge, David (Videotape Engineer)
Holden, Dick (Studio Technician)
Correia, Dennis (Engineer)
MacDonald, Greg (Studio Technician)
Speight, Alonzo R. (Community Coordinator)
Estus, Boyd (Camera)
Fletcher, Leah (Community Coordinator)
Crane, David (Videotape Engineer)
Publication Information
WGBH Educational Foundation
Chicago: “Say Brother; New Music; Cecil Taylor interview,” 12/17/1975, GBH Archives, accessed February 23, 2024,
MLA: “Say Brother; New Music; Cecil Taylor interview.” 12/17/1975. GBH Archives. Web. February 23, 2024. <>.
APA: Say Brother; New Music; Cecil Taylor interview. Boston, MA: GBH Archives. Retrieved from
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