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Jack, as I said this is this is one of our interviews in Vietnam and ah it's by someone you'd say they were ten years old and in fourth grade school at the time and ah he says that when the American Infantry swept into house they went into his house. There had been artillery shells before that.
"We were only women and children. We didn...we didn't know the VC. This was because we were women and children, etc. They approached us and before they could reach us frightening things happened. For example, they shot ears off of some people. When these people climbed on to the bed, they shot at these people causing their guts to burst all over the place. In fact, the whole body shattered from the knees up. They came and asked us about the VC. We said we didn't know what the VC was so they shot at us. They shot at all of us.
After they shot at us, the burned down the house. Even the domestic animals were killed. Another really brutal thing they did, it was so brutal that no human being could ever have done it. It was that after killing these women and children they stomped on the heads of one of them not yet a month old. Another thing was that there were women recovering from childbirth who were dragged out of the house and roughed up. The really terrifying thing was that after they shot and killed these people they scattered something over them and the translation says powdered gasoline, but I think they're talking about Willie Peter Grenades, I think.
Another thing was they threw the corpses into burning haystacks. They were such terrifying things that if you believed in ghosts and demons you'd be really scared. There were dead people lying all around. Their guts strewn all over the place. Their limbs severed. Guts and things flying as high as the ceiling. It was terrifying. It was not really human. In my family at that time forty persons were killed. Total number of inhabitants in Thuy Bo killed at that time was one hundred and five persons. It was really terrifying.
I myself was in the middle portion. This horrified and scared everyone who was alive, but the Americans just carried on. They began shooting to places, the water basin nearby. They fired at us continually. I cannot tell you. I just cannot describe it. I'd gotten felled to the ground. There were a number of bodies, dead bodies piled on top of me. For that reason, I escaped death, and eventually I got out and ran away from that pile of corpses." Just, what does that say to you?
Oh, well, I say that's a dream from a little kid. If he was four years old, eleven years old, ah ya it was terrifying. It was definitely terrifying cause it was terrifying to me. As far as cutting off ears and the stomping and all that ah massive type of ah abuses towards the people there, I don't ah I really can't say. I know that the Marines went in there and we done a, we done a dog down job that third day. It was, there's nothing else that could be said. We just ah done a good job cause that's that's the only thing that's going on.
You can't, I can't evaluate on that because ah it was a daily thing. Not daily ritual to kill, but it was a daily thing to search and destroy. And, I, that's what your mission consist of. It took three days to get in that village and if there was no, if there was no VC in that village, then, then it wouldn't have been no resistance. There would never have been no casualties in that village at all if there was no VC there. And, if, if his family was that large then ah who was we fighting. His family.
I can't understand that. I don't understand ah, I don't even understand that accusation at all. I don't...if we come near, if you're coming to a, like I say a friendly village, then that's what you should get. You should get no resistance. None whatsoever. We been on ah, on ah, on ah I forget the term we used that ah when you go in the village and you aid the people you know. You give them all this first aid and stuff, and we never got no ah sniper fire. But, here is a friendly village reported with VC, well it was reported that there was VC in that area. If that village was friendly then ah we should never have had no resistance for three days.
The mass murder that this young kid said happened ah it was probably in his eyes from a kid's point of view probably did. He probably seen it that way, you know. But like I say, we done a dog down job that third day and ah it wasn't nothing unusual about burning them hootches down and digging them Vietnamese people out of them out of them holes and ah scattering animals, pigs and chickens around like we normally done. It's just a normal procedure we do. Especially after three days. Three days of blood and guts and in the in the mud. Hey. You can't take it.
You couldn't take it and ah like I said I can't account for every Marine that was there and what they done at ah at that particular time they done it because ah they felt that ah that's what they had to do. I can't account for how they acted, you know. Everybody's got their own way, but if he seen it that way ah that's the way he seen it, and the way I seen it was ah was ah it was war. It was actually war. It wasn't ah it wasn't a whole—it wasn't no friendly thing. There was nothing nice about that whole trip.
Even on their side there are, I'm sorry that the Vietnamese people got killed like it was said, but ah we lost as many people as they did. They got any casualties reports on us. You know. So, we're, I think we came out fairly even.