I left the next morning and went to see my friend Tito. I had a most interesting talk with him. He'd been one of the non-aligned nations, seventeen I think there were...I'm not sure of the exact figure...that had urged a peaceful settlement. He said that...I asked him to use his influence...he said that he had...had some influence perhaps in Moscow
which he'd use but...and the Chinese they look upon him as his worst enemy.
And he said you realize last week they called me a revisionist bandit. And I said, well that's nothing, they call us imperialist bandits all the time. "Oh, but you don't understand that revisionist is far worse a character than an imperialist." Tito had a certain sense of humor. But in seriousness, he did send word to Moscow
, but he couldn't do anything, but he said you ought to see Nasser.
You know, Nasser was good friend...one of...non-aligned...and I wanted to get to...I wanted to get...I heard that there was a...a Russian group going to Hanoi
. And I wanted to get word to uh the Russians...that a meeting in Tashkent
I wanted to get word to my friend Kosygin that he should tell them to use their influence So I went to see...went to New Delhi
next and I saw Shastri who was about to go and he agreed to talk...to them. And I saw General Ayib, President Ayub Kahn
, President of Pakistan, and he also agreed. So both of them were on their way to Tashkent
. They certainly talked to the Russians about this. And then I stopped to see the Shah, because I knew he'd be insulted if I didn't see him. I've known him for...so long. Then went on to Nasser. I had a very interesting talk with Nasser.
He said that the Chinese were very difficult. They were very much for the war and didn't want to interrupt it. Whereas, the Russians wanted to stop it. He confirmed again what I told you. He was well informed about it. He said he would take up the subject with both the Chinese and the Russians. He thought...the Chinese first, because they were the most difficult.
I got quite a different impression of Nasser. He was a very courteous. I spent the evening in his home. He was very courteous and made a lot of sense. There was nothing dramatic about it. He...talked about the situation in a very intelligent way. And then I went on. It seemed that I should...I stopped at Thailand
...Went to Vientiane
because I was in that area. But I went particularly to Japan
I saw Soho who was the Prime Minister and they were very anxious to see the war stopped. I went to see my friend Menzies in Australia
and he was for winning the war. He thought that Vietnam was...was just as important to Britain as Berlin
was. He was very vigorous and wanting to continue it but...They had some soldiers there you know, and they were involved.
Then General Dean, not General Dean, but Dean Rusk wanted me to join him in India
and proceed together. He was coming out that way. So I went and joined him and we went on to the Philippines
and on home. It was a fascinating trip and I got to know what different people thought about this all over the world...But the biggest impression that I had from all of them, not all of them... overwhelming majority of those that knew was that the Chinese wanted to keep that war going. And the South Vietnamese were influenced by them...whereas he Russians wanted to see...