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David O. Ives discusses the origin of Say Brother on WGBH Television
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Series: Say Brother
Program: 1968 - 1978, Where Do We Go From Here?
Episode: 910
Date: 1978-12-22
Duration: 00:01:00

Subject: African Americans in television broadcasting; Say Brother - Anniversaries; Television in community development
People: Ives, David O.

Clip Description
Barbara Barrow-Murray interviews David O. Ives about the origin of Say Brother on WGBH Television. Ives talks about the impact of the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr., the realization that Whites, and the need to allow African Americans to create and produce their own programs. He talks about the commitment of the then General Manager, Hartford N. Gunn, to get a program for, by, and about Black people on the air.

Program Description
Say Brother celebrates its tenth anniversary with a look at Boston and its African American community over the past decade -- particularly changes in politics, social service agencies, employment rates, the educational system, and minority programming. Program features interviews with David O. Ives (President of WGBH) and Elma Lewis (Director of the National Center of Afro-American Artists) on why Say Brother was created, State Representative Mel King and Sarah-Ann Shaw, WBZ-TV reporter and former Anti-Poverty Program Coordinator, on changes in African American employment, Lloyd King (Executive Director of the Roxbury Action Program) on changes in housing, John O'Bryant (of the Boston School Committee) on changes resulting from Boston's desegregation plan, and Russell Tillman (former Say Brother staffer from 1968 to 1973) on why the show was shut down in 1970 (about program 63, "New Bedford"). Program dedicated to Ray Richardson (former Say Brother producer) and Melnea Cass (a Roxbury community advocate). Includes excerpts of previously aired programs. Produced by Barbara Barrow-Murray. Directed by Brian Clarke and Eric Himes.

Series Description
Say Brother is WGBH's longest running public affairs television program by, for and about African Americans, and is now known as Basic Black. Since its inception in 1968, Say Brother has featured the voices of both locally and nationally known African American artists, athletes, performers, politicians, professionals, and writers including: Muhammad Ali, Maya Angelou, Thomas Atkins, Amiri Baraka, Doris Bunte, Julian Bond, Stokely Carmichael, Louis Farrakhan, Nikki Giovanni, Odetta Gordon, Henry Hampton, Benjamin Hooks, Jesse Jackson, Hubie Jones, Mel King, Eartha Kitt, Elma Lewis, Haki Madhubuti, Wallace D. Muhammad, Charles Ogletree, Byron Rushing, Owusu Sadaukai, and Sonia Sanchez.

See also: http://main.wgbh.org/saybrother/programs/sb_0910

 
0:01:13 Say Brother introduction.

0:02:16 Program dedication to two outstanding contributors to Boston's Black Community: Ray Richardson, one of Say Brother's first producers (who helped focus national attention on the needs of our community) and Mrs. Melnea Cass, Roxbury's "First Lady" (whose lifelong work was devoted to bettering the condition of each one of us).

0:02:41 Host Barbara Barrow-Murray says that because Say Brother is celebrating its tenth anniversary, [this program] will focus on Boston and its Black community over the past ten years, taking a look at: what has happened politically, social service agencies that have come and gone since 1968, the employment situation, the educational system, and the need and value of minority programming.

0:03:38 Murray starts the review of Say Brother's history with Martin Luther King, Jr.s' death and an excerpt from his March on Washington's "I Have a Dream" speech, 1963. Murray says that King's death touched off anger and violence, and that one of the nationwide ways to control angry Blacks was television programming. WGBH chose to air a James Brown concert (at Boston Garden, April 5, 1968). [Footage of Brown's performance is shown, as well as Mayor Kevin White's concert speech, in which he asks for Boston to live King's dream of peace.]

0:09:08 Murray says that with King's death, there was some reward for those left behind. [Footage with narration is that from the perspective of the front seat of a car driving through Boston.]

0:10:16 Murray says that Black programming developed nationwide. There was a obvious need for programs such as Say Brother.

0:10:28 In studio, Murray asks WGBH Station President David O. Ives how Say Brother came about (Ives was then with fundraising, not President). This is followed by a separate interview with Elma Lewis (Director of the National Center of Afro-American Artists), who also answers the question.

0:12:45 Murray discusses employment in the Black community in the 1960s throughout he 1970s. A chart for the U.S. Labor force for 1974 to 1978 appears on screen.

0:13:26 Murray asks State Representative Mel King, on a Boston street, to speak to the current drop in Black employment as compared to the 1960s and early 1970s. Murray then asks Sarah Ann Shaw (of WBZ-TV and a former Anti-Poverty Program Coordinator), also on a Boston street, what she thinks accounted for the drop.

0:18:14 Murray says that as employment grew, so too did the government's interest in fulfilling social service needs. Blue Hill Avenue, once called "the strip" had many of these social services. Sarah-Ann Shaw explains why she feels the services on the "strip" declined in number, followed by Murray asking Lloyd King (Executive Director of the Roxbury Action Program), in front of the RAP building, why he moved RAP from Blue Hill Avenue.

0:23:30 Lloyd King (Executive Director of the Roxbury Action Program) talks about the housing "boom" in the Black community and the possibility of RAP moving to another locality to work on revitalizing neighborhoods.

0:26:34 Murray says that in 1964, Representative Royal Bolling, Sr. authored a bill: the racial imbalance law and explains the lawsuit that followed years later charging racial discrimination in the Boston schools (1973). In 1974, Federal Judge W. Arthur Garrity, Jr. ruled the Boston Public Schools unconstitutionally segregated. [Narrated over footage that first aired in program 701, "Modification of Phase Two : What Does It Really Mean ?"]

0:27:37 Murray asks John O'Bryant (of the Boston School Committee) how he viewed changes stemming from the desegregation plan, if he feels desegregated education has been achieved in Boston, what changes he felt he has made and will help make possible via the School Committee, and where he thinks we are going [as a community].

0:33:48 Murray summarizes the benefits of televised access to the community and says that we will now hear why. [An excerpt from Murray's studio interview with Elma Lewis on the value of programs like Say Brother follows and includes is a previously aired excerpt of a Say Brother televised performance by dancers of the Dance Company of the National Center of Afro-American Artists.]

0:36:06 Excerpt from a 1973 interview with Lenny Durant (of Circle Associates) on getting public services in Black neighborhoods (trash pickup, sidewalk and street cleaning, etc.). Sarah-Ann Shaw, in studio (1978), then comments on the opportunities programs like Say Brother afford.

0:38:08 Excerpt from a 1973 - 1974 season program featuring then Producer Topper Carew and guest Melnea Cass, who talks about the Federal cuts to programs for the elderly. [SEE: program 323, "Senior Citizens."]

39:33:00 Excerpt from the program, "New Bedford," which was produced by Ray Richardson. Murray says that the following segment was ultimately viewed as inappropriate and created a climate of political attack on the limits of access. Segment includes Ray Richardson's introduction to the program. [SEE: program 63, "New Bedford."]

0:42:48 Murray says that Say Brother was pulled off the air in 1970 (as a result of the New Bedford program). Murray says that President Ives and a former Say Brother staffer, Russell Tillman, will provide some perspective on that part of [our] history.

0:43:10 Murray, in an in studio interview with Ives, asks about the firing of Ray Richardson and the rights of a producer.

0:45:32 Murray asks Russell Tillman (staffer from 1968 to 1973) why the show was shut down in 1970. (Tillman describes the Black community's "lock out" of WGBH as a result.)

0:50:14 Murray says that after a struggle, Say Brother was back on the air. [Following Murray's statement are excerpts from programs on Malcolm X and Black Solidarity Day, 1972.]

0:52:24 Murray says that institution building on every level in the Black community built self-identification. She says that Brother Louis Farrakhan, Minister of the Nation of Islam, spoke with Say Brother in 1974 to help clarify what should be happening in the community.

0:52:43 Excerpt from program 305, "Louis Farrakhan."

0:54:09 Murray says that to emphasis Farrakhan's point on community awareness, Mel King will inform us of our power base as a community from a political perspective. (Followed by King's commentary on what we can attribute the greater political awareness of the 1970s too.)

0:55:06 Murray introduces closing program commentary by Ives and Lewis (in separate interviews). Ives explains the need for all programming to speak to all people (and not minority or non-minority programming), while Lewis talks about increasing the budgets for programs like Say Brother to improve programming directions.

0:58:16 Murray closes program.

0:58:39 Credits roll.