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Lee Lewis when he came around, you know, through the airwaves, "A Whole Lot of Shakin" and that sort of thing. That was one form and of course the, the Ray Charles on the other side, the rhythm and blues side, that was wonderful, , you know, such a presence in ___ music industry, he had, before he came here he had produced a record with Ray Charles and, and all associated, that Red Atlantic Records and he had worked and produced people like Ray Charles and Chuck Willis and Drifters. So he was a real presence. Maybe he

. Let's go on to the Johnson administration. (clears throat) After Kennedy's assassination, and before the funeral, Johnson met with some of his advisers and the decision was made to stand firm on Vietnam. Did you, were you involved in that? Did you express any doubts at that time, ... Mark it. Beep. Once again. Any time. Okay. Maybe you could pick up that point about the sense of drifting in in early '64. President Johnson came to power, there was real concern as to whether it actually, real doubt. Certainly ah as President Johnson said to me ah, "I don't think that ah they ever did attack the second time." He said, "I think those dumb sailors were just shooting at one another or shooting at flying fish. To, I think those dumb sailors were just

had lived. How did Lyndon Johnson perceive his inheritance from the Kennedy Administration? Could you describe his meeting with Henry Cabot Lodge on the 24th of November, two days after President Kennedy was assassinated? Also, what was President Johnson's attitude towards the coup? What what did he feel about Diem coup? My first uh, knowledge of uh, Lyndon Johnson's views, as president, on Vietnam came I think, there was a kind of caution on Lyndon Johnson's part about becoming involved in Vietnam, a hesitation as he went in. At that stage did you think he began to look at Vietnam as a major challenge or did that arrive later? I think uh, uh it is uh