Richard Perle was an aide to U.S. senator Henry Scoop Jackson from 1969 to 1980 and assistant secretary of defense from 1981 to 1987. In the interview he discusses Senator Jacksons position during the SALT I and II negotiations. Although Jackson vote for SALT I and the ABM Treaty in Congress, Perle notes that he did not support them completely, and goes on to point out the flaws with both. He argues against Nixon and Kissingers policy of detente, which he felt was unsound. He disputes claims that Jackson has authority over firing the SALT I team or hiring the SALT II team. He discusses the Jackson-Vanik amendment, including Kissingers reaction to it. He also criticizes Kissinger handling of SALT II. He discusses the MIRV ban proposal, and its failure.