We didn't try to stop it. I was not there of course but...Who killed Diem...Of course he was killed I'm sure by the two officers that killed him in the truck, having been captured over in Cho Lon. But I don't think we gave him the kind of protection we should have given him or backed him up enough.
I was not there then of course and it was a very serious thing that happened, but I think and I'm going to say this categorically. I think the press that Diem is getting '62, '63...was very, very wrong, that he was a dictator in his shell and never moved.
I don't know whether he went out in the country after I left. I traveled all over Vietnam when I was there, not only I did but the rest of the diplomatic corps would take us on all these junkets to the middle of nowhere and we'd camp out in little places in...down in the riverine area, the swamp, the mangrove swamps. He traveled all over the country. He himself with his entourage without the diplomatic corps going around with him, did the same thing.
Maybe he became more of a recluse later on...I wasn't there, but I think it was too bad we didn't give him better protection because he was a Vietnamese patriot, he was not the corrupt person that everybody thinks, as far as I'm concerned, who had all these reports, had this bank account in Switzerland and a couple of...Nhu did and Diem did and the building officers did.
Well if they did, they lost the keys or lost the numbers of the box because when I was in Paris...I was sent to Paris to the NATO conference after that, and Mrs. Nhu after her husband was killed came to Paris where she joined Diem's younger brother, Luyen, who had been the ambassador in London, who had eleven children.
Mrs. Nhu with her two children and eleven Luyen children lived in bigger French apartment not too far from where I lived and one of our staff from the NATO staff American delegation lived just below them.
And I got, she wouldn't invite me...she didn't like me but his wife and he were invited up for tea a couple of times and got to know them. And they were camping out in this place...that Swiss bank account was as fat as it was, they'd had a much better place. She finally had to give up Paris and she moved down to Frascati outside of Rome where Diem's oldest brother, the archbishop, uh Thuc, took care of her. So as far as I know she's still there.